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 Post subject: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:34 am 
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Looks like they just released the Inuke series. It's a little sketchy but it looks like their 6000 watter is out too. From what I understand, these are basically 2 3k watt amps in the same shell like the ipr (which explains why you can't bridge either).

Is Behringer responsible for the on going parts shortages or are they going to run into the same problem as Peavey?


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:47 pm 
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At the Naval Academy, we had an Honor Concept: "A Midshipman does not lie cheat or steal." In the USMC, it was very similar. I was raised not to tolerate lying, cheating and stealing.

All that having been said, I will attempt to answer your question as best I know how, keeping the whole "praise publicly, criticize privately" leadership trait foremost.
mixwiz wrote:
Is Behringer responsible for the on going parts shortages or are they going to run into the same problem as Peavey?
Honestly, I am not sure if Behringer is responsible for the component/parts shortages.
But there are a few facts:
- Behringer is located slightly closer to a lot of the sources.
- The design, the specs, the outputs, the inputs and everything else, this sure seems to be a "REAL CLOSE" copy of the IPR.
- Their pricing is too competitive.

Hypothesis:
Berhinger engineers developed "in parallel" the same concept as Peavey and with their "extensive engineering department", got it to market sooner at a cheaper cost.

Opinion:
- No, they didn't and this seems to be an IPR clone.
- From their website, Behringer doesn't have a Research & Development Department, nor an iNUKE support section.
- They did trade the "cool blue" lighting for some sort of brownish-orange derivative; fail.
- Their pricing is the only thing that would lead me to believe they are not responsible for the Peavey shortages - at the pre-order prices, these are surely not of the quality the Peavey IPR is using.
- Corollary: these 'lesser' parts are the initial runs and consequently the "step downs" from the ones Peavey is waiting on.
- Perhaps that is why the Berrys are more or less on the market already. I say "more or less" as their support section has no FAQs about iNUKE and eerything is "coming soon."

Interesting thought:
I wonder if Berry's Lead Amp "engineer" would like to elaborate on "his" design for this series and elaborate on how the team came up with the design?

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Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:20 pm 
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"This product is currently not available for sale in the United States and Canada pending verification of compliance with applicable technical standards and regulations."

This could be interesting...


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:58 pm 
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My 2 cents. Having been the victim of some of these hyped ads for powerfull amps(berry epx3000, Carv.1540) I believe I can chime in. Be very carefull of ratings, some use pulse or Burst power whatever that is to rate bridge and 2ohm use. Mil. on and off . I have parked 2 epx3000 and 1 1540l because they sag heavily under diff voltages and dont provide adequte protection, by this I mean someone hit the rack switch on the board one nite and then back on, the softstart relay didnt work and I lost a driver run off the 1540l. Did a show with 1 sub 1 hipak on a pole, thought good chance to use the crossover in the berry. Its only 12db!! not a fun nite. After getting the Ipr's
and spending $399x2 on berry and $449 on 1540l I was happy to spring for the $399x3 and $299x3 to get real world power and DDT protection that WORKS. My bad on not being patient when Peavey was backordered but it cost me. The resale or trade in factor was $100 each for those amps at GC, dont tell the wife!! LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:32 am 
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Hey Guys,

Wanted to share some insight real quick that has nothing to do with reverse engineering, or pricing, or any of the mentioned items.

Expectations?

$299 amps are gonna sound like $299. $1,349 amps are gonna sound like $1,349. As long as this is understood, all is well :) Good night guys.

Jason


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:28 am 
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JGLAS wrote:
$299 amps are gonna sound like $299. $1,349 amps are gonna sound like $1,349. As long as this is understood, all is well Good night guys.
Well spoken, Sir Jason of Glas!


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:41 am 
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I'm pretty aware of the scoop about behringer. The 2500 was a pretty close copy of the rmx 2450 etc (though it is interesting that they bought midas).

I'm talking about the "parts shortages". It is more than a little frustrating that peavey is relatively silent about the release dates for the higher powered iprs and it looks as though, even with a big head start, behringer might beat them to market.

I started with a 1600 which has served me well. Then I ordered a 6000 (a year ago). Cancelled that and waited and waited for 2 3000s instead. Couldn't wait any longer and bought 2 Drivecore 2500s instead (nice amp btw).

It would be nice if someone from Peavey would update us as to what is going on and when they will produce the higher powered amplifiers.


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 Post subject: Re: Behringer I nuke
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:27 pm 
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Update: Not in production yet. Closer than last month!


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