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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by dwimmerlaik » Thu May 30, 2013 3:46 pm

Isakale wrote:I have never used amps before, but I want to get one for my new Taylor acoustic. I was thinking the Vypyr VIP 1 would be nice incase I decided to buy a bass or electric guitar... But I have a few questions about this amp.

First off, is this a good amp for acoustic? It's features look mostly for electric guitar...
What does on-board looper mean? Does that mean the amp itself has a loop pedal in it, or it can simply be used with a looper?
I am seeing lots of effects on the display of this amp, can you use all of them without buying anything extra, like their Sanpera pedal?
Does the USB interface work well?
And lastly, will only 20 watts be enough volume to make the purchase necessary? (Will it be much louder than the guitar, unplugged?)

The amp sounds too good to be true, and I am not finding much online by way of reviews.
I suppose I just want an amp that gets decently loud for house playing, supports and sounds good with acoustic guitars and also if I could use that USB feature to record, and it sounds good, that is definitely an added bonus!

Thanks so much!!!
First, let me welcome you to the Peavey forum. I will try to answer your questions in order.

1. "is this (the VIP) a good amp for acoustic?"

Only you can decide if the amp is right for you. Everyone's style of play and specific needs are different so the only way to definitively answer this to take the guitar you intend to play the most through the amp to a store and plug into it. Online videos are great but there are sound compression and other factors that have an effect on what you hear at the other end. The demonstrator is not using your guitar, strings, pickups, or (most importantly) your hands. So, this can only go so far in demonstrating the true tone of the amp.

2. "What does on-board looper mean?"

The looper feature is built into the amp rather than into the control pedal. Which is kind of irrelevant since the looper on the VIP can only be accessed by using either of the Sanpera foot controllers.

3. "I am seeing lots of effects on the display of this amp, can you use all of them without buying anything extra, like their Sanpera pedal?

The features section of the VIP page on Peavey.com can probably answer this best...

http://www.peavey.com/products/index.cf ... 26nbsp%3B2

4. "Does the USB interface work well?"

Not having tried this personally on the VIP I can't say absolutely yes or no to this one. I have however used the USB on the original Vypyr (75W) and it worked great for recording with a computer (I used it with 'Garage Band').

5. "Will only 20 watts be enough volume to make the purchase necessary? (Will it be much louder than the guitar, unplugged?)"

Yes. 20W will be much louder than just the guitar without an amp and will certainly be loud enough for playing at your house. Whether that is "necessary" only you can decide.

Hope these answers help you. Again, welcome to the forum and let us know how it turns out for you.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by Woody_in_MN » Fri May 31, 2013 7:04 pm

So I have been thinking about one of these - probably the VIP 2 if I got one, and thought I would share what I have found so far.

I went to a GC closest to my office on Thursday to try one out. They did not havve a VIP 2 unboxed - so I plugged into the VIP 1 they had available. Quick impressions - partly because I did not bring my reading glasses I found the controls and labeling very hard to read. I grabbed an Epi LP Standard which was very out of tune - but found the built in tuner quickly and that helped me get in tune quickly. The Classic voice was nice. Loud too - even on this little guy. The clean "Twin" voice was well - clean and nice. I had kind of mixed impressions of the "Brit" voice. I then switched to 6505 and was a bit disappointed. It did not have the tight punchy bass I kind of expected. Maybe that was due to the small 8" speaker. I did try the Acoustic voice even though I had an electric plugged in - and I thought it sounded pretty good. After going back to the 6505 or one of the high gain voices, a clerk came by and told me to turn it down or go to their "Platinum Room". I had to get back to work - so I said no thanks and left.

So you know. I was kind of underwhelmed. But then again I was playing with an Epi with old strings that kept going out of tune - there was a lot of background noise, and I was in a hurry. I am hoping to get out this weekend with one of my guitars and want to give it a better chance to impress me. The other piece of this - if I get one I will probably trade my Red Stripe Bandit, and I was playing that tonight, and it sounded pretty good. So I am not sure yet what I will end up doing.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by Woody_in_MN » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:38 pm

UPDATE: So I went down to another GC and tried both the VIP 1, and 2 wiht one of my guitars. Sounded better. I am still not liking the 6505 voice - and I thought I would. I almost thought about the VIP 1 - but was concerned about the small speaker - although it did not sound bad. I brought my Bandit along to trade - and thought it might come down to trade value. The clerk was really rushed trying to deal with too many customers - they had a new genration Bandit there that they had $150 on. The sales clerk said he would probably put $150 on my red stripe Bandit, and based on that he could offer me 60% of that for trade value. I figured that was almost retail for a used Bandit, and took the deal. It turned out the floor model was the only VIP2 they had - and it had a small ding at the base - he gave me an additonal trade value for that - so net net - I got a really good deal on it. Just started messing around with the VIP 2 - but found that saving edits to the factory presets was easy. Just tweak the controls - then it works like a radio button on a car. Really easy once you know the trick.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by dwimmerlaik » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:48 am

Woody_in_MN wrote:UPDATE: So I went down to another GC and tried both the VIP 1, and 2 wiht one of my guitars. Sounded better. I am still not liking the 6505 voice - and I thought I would. I almost thought about the VIP 1 - but was concerned about the small speaker - although it did not sound bad. I brought my Bandit along to trade - and thought it might come down to trade value. The clerk was really rushed trying to deal with too many customers - they had a new genration Bandit there that they had $150 on. The sales clerk said he would probably put $150 on my red stripe Bandit, and based on that he could offer me 60% of that for trade value. I figured that was almost retail for a used Bandit, and took the deal. It turned out the floor model was the only VIP2 they had - and it had a small ding at the base - he gave me an additonal trade value for that - so net net - I got a really good deal on it. Just started messing around with the VIP 2 - but found that saving edits to the factory presets was easy. Just tweak the controls - then it works like a radio button on a car. Really easy once you know the trick.

Thanks for the updates! After you've had some time to really tweak the VIP report back. I'm sure you will find lots to comment on after you've lived with it awhile.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by Jspencer » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:12 am

Woody_in_MN wrote: I went to a GC closest to my office on Thursday to try one out. They did not havve a VIP 2 unboxed - so I plugged into the VIP 1 they had available. Quick impressions - partly because I did not bring my reading glasses I found the controls and labeling very hard to read. I grabbed an Epi LP Standard which was very out of tune - but found the built in tuner quickly and that helped me get in tune quickly. The Classic voice was nice. Loud too - even on this little guy. The clean "Twin" voice was well - clean and nice. I had kind of mixed impressions of the "Brit" voice. I then switched to 6505 and was a bit disappointed. It did not have the tight punchy bass I kind of expected. Maybe that was due to the small 8" speaker. I did try the Acoustic voice even though I had an electric plugged in - and I thought it sounded pretty good.
The 8" speaker in the VIP1 will be a limitation to some because it can't reproduce low end as well as a bigger speaker. There sure is a big difference between an 8" and a 4x12. But given its features at its entry-level price point I understand why Peavey stayed with the 8".

I'm thinking of bringing my Sanpera pedal to my local music store and trying it out with their VIP1. Right now I use a Vypyr 15 modded with a 10" for my grab and go amp. I like the Sanpera compatability and the availability of a on-board compressor as well as the acoustic instrument capabilities of the VIPs without the bulk of my Vypyr 30. Of course modding the VIP will void the warranty but I haven't had a Peavey product fail in 35 years, including the 3 Vypyr amps I have been using.
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Vypyr Edit

Post by scredly » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:48 am

Has Vypyr Edit been released?

If it has not been released, when will it be released?

Does/will Vypyr Edit work with original Vypyrs?

Do the VIP's have "cabinet voicing" like the original Vypyrs? (Hold 1-4 in at start-up.)

I think these amps should have a cabinet-voiced XLR output (with a ground lift switch?) that does not interrupt signal to the speaker.

Still hoping for an updated version of the T60.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by scredly » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:03 am

It's been one-month since my post and nothing from PV. No reply to questions. No release of Vypyr edit. Very disappointed.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by dwimmerlaik » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:41 am

scredly wrote:It's been one-month since my post and nothing from PV. No reply to questions. No release of Vypyr edit. Very disappointed.
From what I've been told (June 17th.) edit should be posted on the website within a few weeks. As of now still nothing.

It has been a very disappointing product launch.
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Vypyr Edit Software

Post by scredly » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:20 am

Despite the product being launched without the promised software editor, I have sold my Vypyr 30 and purchased a VIP 2. Once it is delivered, I will be merciless in my pursuit of the Vypyr Edit software, the advertised editor software, that is supposed to be delivered WITH the amp - as shown in product demo videos from NAMM and in other advertisements for the product. The original Vypyrs were launched in @2009 and there is STILL no functional software librarian or editor from Peavey for them. I will not go quietly down that road again.

I have purchased the product with the specific promise that Peavey will deliver the advertised software "in a few weeks". If the software is not released by 4 August, 2013, I will file a claim with the FTC under Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act for unfair or deceptive acts or trade practices, specifically for false advertising and also under R.I. GL SECTION 6-13.1-1 (v) Representing that goods or services have characteristics, uses, benefits that they do not have; & (ix) Advertising goods or services with intent not to sell them as advertised.

As this product is already being sold nationally (and internationally) without the advertised software, there is the possibility of a class action.

Peavey, you have been warned...deliver what you have advertised.
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by jds22 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:01 pm

Peavey, you have been warned...deliver what you have advertised.
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Re: Vypyr Edit Software

Post by deuterium » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:17 pm

scredly wrote:

Peavey, you have been warned...deliver what you have advertised.
Scredly,

I just got off the line with NORAD. They have confirmed that Peavey has officially gone to DEFCON 1.

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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by dwimmerlaik » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:58 pm

The response to my request for the release of Vypyr edit from my contact inside Peavey said Vypyr edit is being beta tested now. The delay is due to an update MicroSoft made to Windows 8 that caused some unseen issues to arise which had to be sorted out.

I'm waiting to buy a VIP until the software and community are fully available. Like many others I'm disappointed and hate waiting but I have more sympathy than anger for the folks at Peavey.

What a pain to have a product ready to go and then, nope! MicroSoft did an update that's causing problems so now the whole thing needs to be re-checked for compatibility, parts of it re-coded, and then re-tested again. UGH!

It is really frustrating but better to wait a little and get a quality product that's as up to date and fully functional as possible than have something that's buggy and un-usable while waiting anyway for the fix.

I understand these things happen and I'm being as patient as I can but, in the words of Tom Petty, the waiting is the hardest part!
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by dwimmerlaik » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:34 pm

I asked again last night and this is the response I received today from inside Peavey...

"The programmer has been working much overtime to get this done. We've been beta testing it and it should be up this week."
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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by raichea » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:28 am

"The programmer"?? Seems hard to believe that there's only one software guy working on the code. If so, I predict the wait will be longer than anyone hopes for..... :(

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Re: Your official Vypyr VIP thread

Post by jds22 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:52 am

raichea wrote:"The programmer"?? Seems hard to believe that there's only one software guy working on the code. If so, I predict the wait will be longer than anyone hopes for..... :(
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